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Rejoinder to “A Note on ‘Hartz-Horowitz at Twenty’: The Case of French Canada”

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  10 November 2009

H. D. Forbes
H. D. Forbes
Affiliation:
University of Toronto
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Extract

A rejoinder to a rejoinder must be brief, even if the issues it discusses are complex. Nelson Wiseman's rejoinder to my article on Hartz and Horowitz raises no important questions about my presentation of Hartzian theory, so I shall concentrate on his objections to my interpretation of French-Canadian history.

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Canadian Journal of Political Science/Revue canadienne de science politique , Volume 21 , Issue 4 , December 1988 , pp. 807 - 811
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Copyright © Canadian Political Science Association (l'Association canadienne de science politique) and/et la Société québécoise de science politique 1988

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References

1 Nelson, Wiseman, “A Note on ‘Hartz-Horowitz at Twenty’: The Case of French Canada,” this JOURNAL 21 (1988), 795–806;Google ScholarForbes, H. D., “Hartz-Horowitz at Twenty: Nationalism, Toryism and Socialism in Canada and the United States,” this JOURNAL 20 (1987), 287–315.Google Scholar

2 This difficulty can be evaded by saying that Quebec was a “rural society” until 1960, but it was not—as Wiseman concedes when he says that “some of the material conditions necessary for the rise of socialist ideology were being created even before the Quiet Revolution.” For some statistics, see Kenneth McRoberts, Quebec: Social Change and Political Crisis (3rd ed.; Toronto: McClelland and Stewart, 1988), 72–73.

3 For a detailed description and a contrary conclusion, see McRoberts, Quebec, chaps. 7–10.

4 Others say it at much greater length and more convincingly in my anthology, Canadian Political Thought (Toronto: Oxford University Press, 1985). See also Ramsay Cook (ed.), French-Canadian Nationalism (Toronto: Macmillan, 1969): Jean-Louis Roy (ed.), Les Programmes électoraux du Québec, 2 vols. (Montreal: Leméac, 1971); and Daniel Latouche and Diane Poliquin-Bourassa (eds.). Le Manuel de la parole: Manifestes québécois, 3 vols. (Sillery: Boréal Express, 1977–1979).

5 Wiseman has explored some of its difficulties in Nelson Wiseman, “The Pattern of Prairie Politics,” Queen's Quarterly 88 (1981), 298–315. He found no relation, as he says, between the emergence of prairie socialism and toryism or a feudal outlook.