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The Independents Again

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  16 January 2014

David Underdown
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George Yule's “Independents and Revolutionaries” suggests that in many respects he and I are not so far apart. We agree that a “rigid two-party view” of Interregnum politics is a mistake, that not all members of the Rump were political Independents, that “Independent” was not commonly used as a political term after 1648, and that the clue to the events of 1648-49, the climax of the Puritan Revolution, lies in the existence of a group of genuine radicals who can and ought to be identified. He also seems to agree in one place that the criticisms of his statistical methods in The Independents in the English Civil War which I advanced in “The Independents Reconsidered” are justified, though in another he argues that the table in The Independents enables the reader to surmount these difficulties. This being so, if a technical dispute over methodology was all that remained between us, his latest article might well be left unchallenged. It contains, however, a number of assumptions about seventeenth-century religion and politics which are either unfounded or need serious qualification, and on which a few further comments are necessary.

First, as to method. It is true that the table referred to enables the reader to obtain Yule's estimates of the total numbers in various groups, such as (a) “Fled to Army, 1647,” (b) purged, 1648, and (c) Rumper, and of how these break down by social position and religious affiliation. But nowhere is there any entry for all of Yule's allegedly Independent M.P.s and of the breakdown for these, nor is there any way of obtaining it from the table.

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Journal of British Studies , Volume 8 , Issue 1 , November 1968 , pp. 83 - 93
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Copyright © North American Conference of British Studies 1968

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1. Yule, George, “Independents and Revolutionaries,” J.B.S., VII (1968), 11–32CrossRefGoogle Scholar (hereafter cited as Yule, “Revolutionaries”).

2. Ibid., pp. 14, 12, 19.

3. Ibid., pp. 12-13.

4. Ibid., p. 19.

5. Underdown, David, “The Independents Reconsidered,” J.B.S., III (1964), 57–84CrossRefGoogle Scholar (hereafter cited as Underdown, “Independents”).

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9. As indicated in Underdown, “Independents,” p. 62.

10. Quite apart from the matter of definition, it must be repeated that the biographical appendix on which the statistics rest contains far too many errors of detail for it to sustain any conclusions with confidence. A high proportion of the entries contain minor errors — misspellings, inaccuracies regarding parentage, relations, property, education, etc. In addition to the false identification of Robert Andrews (ibid., p. 74), the following of Yule's entries should be approached with particular care: Richard Aldworth, John Fagg, Sir James Harrington, Herbert Hay, John Radcliffe, Thomas Scott, George Snelling.

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14. Ibid., pp. 13, 19-20.

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